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Correct me if I am wrong, but it is my understanding that Cone did not attribute percentages of success provided by each activity. He merely assigned the activities as a part of his teaching process.

Doriss Hambrick
Baylor University
Paul L. Foster Success Center

On Apr 27, 2012, at 8:39 AM, "Saundra Y McGuire" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Thanks, Norm.  I don't think there's any dispute that the Cone of Learning is legitimate and great stuff.  It's the percentages that were put in that are bogus.
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> Saundra McGuire, Ph.D. 
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> Dale was familiar with the theories of forgetting. Early in his career he checked out a copy of H.F. Spitzer's dissertation... A Study of Retention in Reading (I assume he read it). This was a groundbreaking dissertation for those interested in postsecondary learning. Walter Pauk and F. P. Robinson among others used it as a foundation of their earlier arguments for study systems (based on Seashore's understanding of the learning process). 
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> http://www.willatworklearning.com/2006/05/people_remember.html
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> Saundra McGuire, Ph.D. 
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> The website listed below claims that Edgar Dale's Cone of Experience fabricates percentages but doesn't give documentation to substantiate that claim.  I have used the pictured chart in several workshops so the matter is of concern to me. 
> Anyone have a comment on the subject? 
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> https://sites.google.com/a/uwlax.edu/exploring-how-students-learn/
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> Saundra McGuire, Ph.D.
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