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On Jun 15, 2013, at 9:49 AM, "patrick doreian" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > ***** To join INSNA, visit http://www.insna.org ***** > > hello, > i do not think jeff was claiming that social networks is just the science of the individual. it is concerned about both structural matters - structures and evolution etc - and their impacts on individual actions. of course, actor attributes affect networks structure and change. i have often harbored the fantasy of showing up at a physicist convention and asking them about interviewing their molecules. rightly, they would think i was insane. but i would bet they would miss the real point would be that indiviuals are not molecules. > pat > > On 6/15/2013 12:12 AM, Moses Boudourides wrote: >> ***** To join INSNA, visit http://www.insna.org ***** >> >> Good question, Jeff. However, whenever in the past structuralists like >> Bruce Mayhew were addressing exactly the same question to >> individualists, some social networkers seemed to be at least >> unconcerned (if not overtly averse). Why then should a physicist be >> convinced to endorse the idea that social networks is just the science >> of the individual? --Moses >> >> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Johnson, Jeffrey C <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> ***** To join INSNA, visit http://www.insna.org ***** >>> But what have the physicists contributed to theoretical advancements in >>> study of human behavior? Besides the claim of physicists >>> fathering/mothering the advent of SNA which is flawed st best, what have >>> they done to advance any theoretical explanations of human behavior, >>> particularly at the individual level? Just asking? >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID >>> >>> >>> Valdis Krebs <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> ***** To join INSNA, visit http://www.insna.org ***** >>> >>> Ha! >>> >>> Yes, lot of bad info out there... even in Wikipedia, and in those big data >>> sets! >>> >>> At least they are not calling it "social networkING analysis" yet! >>> >>> ;-) >>> >>> Valdis >>> >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2013, at 4:20 PM, John T. Maloney wrote: >>> >>> ***** To join INSNA, visit http://www.insna.org ***** >>> >>> Hi - Good to know. >>> >>> Remember, too, Facebook invented the social graph. >>> >>> Social graph "...was popularized at the Facebook f8 conference on May 24, >>> 2007, when it was used to explain that the Facebook Platform, which was >>> introduced at the same time, would benefit from the social graph by taking >>> advantage of the relationships between individuals." -Wikipedia >>> >>> Gee-whiz! I didn't know that. >>> >>> Of course you should all know -- >>> >>> "One of the earliest known forms of the social graph was created in 2002 by >>> Harvard student Philippe Bouzaglou in a paper published on the Harvard >>> Department of Economics website." -Wikipedia >>> >>> >>> G-o-l-l-y, Sur-prise, sur-prise, sur-prise! It’s fun learning something new >>> every day. >>> >>> >>> Let’s be sure to give credit where credit is due. These deserve the double >>> WTF-WTF. >>> >>> -j >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Social Networks Discussion Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On >>> Behalf Of Barry Wellman >>> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 12:48 PM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: [SOCNET] what the ?? >>> >>> ***** To join INSNA, visit http://www.insna.org ***** >>> >>> "*** network science blossomed in the 1990s thanks to the confluence of >>> mathematical tools developed by theoretical physicists *** and huge data >>> sets produced by cell phones, the Internet, and other digital technologies." >>> >>> http://www.sciencemag.org/content/340/6138/1272.full >>> >>> >>> Barry Wellman >>> >>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> S.D. 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