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I would say, let's go for it and let social evolution to exert its
pressures by seeing if people will use it.
~michal

On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:41 PM, John T. Maloney <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Hi -
>
> All excellent comments and suggestions. My suggestion is that we simply
> cohere and position the various services. It is rather ad hoc and chaotic at
> the moment. A fluid, diverse ecosystem is an advantage. IMO, the two main
> functions are collection, e.g., Wikipedia, bibliographies, etc. and
> connection, e.g. Socnet, StackExchange (proposed). The service offerings
> could be published or endorsed by INSNA (or not). This seems like a good
> conversation to have at Sun Belt. It would not preclude any particular
> service. Rather it would aid the research community. It would help
> researchers arrive at the optimal/definitive answers more efficiently and
> make finding stuff easier. Besides, with the sharp growth in network
> research and analysis  mechanisms are needed separate the wheat from the
> chaff. My 2-cents.
>
> -j
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Social Networks Discussion Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Raffaele Vacca
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 11:36 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [SOCNET] Network Science on StackExchange
>
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> John,
>
> I agree that existing wiki pages on Network Science/SNA should be improved
> and not disregarded as obsolete technology, but I think they have a quite
> different function and "usability" than a StackExchange site. Nate discussed
> well some of the differences, which also explain why SE sites have quickly
> become so popular in spite of the abundance of wikis, forums and listservs
> on the same subjects (see the case of R). I think that ideally we as a
> community should take care of all these tools, because all contribute a
> different piece to the knowledge about this field that exists on the Web,
> and to its accessibility by outsiders and newcomers. Thank you for the
> feedback.
>
> Raffaele
>
> On 1/19/14, 12:03 PM, ND wrote:
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>> You might be correct that we don't need another outlet. You are
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>> certainly correct that existing outlets can and should be improved. But
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>> the former sounds akin to saying "what's the value of Twitter when we
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>> have {telephones, texting, websites, blogs}?"
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>>
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>> StackExchange (SE) sites have a completely different incentive structure
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>> for both asking and answering questions. I believe SE is more accessible
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>> in the sense that it's easier to start a specific discussion and
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>> contribute to it than in a wiki or listserv context. Wikis are actually
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>> a sub-feature of SE. Topic specific chat rooms are also a sub-feature.
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>> SE is peer reviewed. You can quickly get a sense for how knowledgeable a
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>> contributor is by his or her reputation score which is determined in
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>> part by peer review. And the new site will already be attached to a very
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>> popular collection of websites (i.e., SE).
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>>
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>> I recognize wikis offer many of these advantages. But personally -- and
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>> I could well be a special case -- I find SE forums a bit more natural in
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>> their use and organization.
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>>
>
>> Thanks for your thoughts. And I hope to hear more.
>
>>
>
>> -Nate
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 11:12 AM, John T. Maloney <[log in to unmask]
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>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>>
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>>     Hi - Stack Overflow is excellent as is Stack Exchange. However, IMO,
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>>     for the
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>>     moment, we do not need another destination for Socnet stuff. Happy to
>> be
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>>     vociferously overruled, but it probably makes better sense to improve
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>>     existing stores...
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>>
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>>     For example, did you know Socnet has a disused wiki?
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>>
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>>     https://www.socialtext.net/insna-socnet/
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>>
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>>     Rather than pouring on more destinations and technologies, it would
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>>     be far
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>>     more prudent to correct Wikipedia. For example, according to
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>>     Wikipedia, did
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>>     you know Facebook invented the social graph?
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>>
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>>     Hopefully, some clever and passionate Sunbelters will gather in St.
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>>     Peter to
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>>     examine and propose an strategy, architecture and roadmap for
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>>     solving this
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>>     perennial Socnet problem. If it is a proper agenda item or breakout
>> that
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>>     would be preferred.
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>>
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>>     For example, I'm eager to port these data into Wikipedia or the
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>>     recommended
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>>     destination medium/a...
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>>
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>>     https://sites.google.com/site/businesssna/
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>>
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>>     Ready to help in any/every way!
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>>
>
>>     -j
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>>
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>>
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>>
>
>>     -----Original Message-----
>
>>     From: Raffaele Vacca [mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
>
>>     Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 11:07 AM
>
>>     To: John T. Maloney
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>>     Subject: Fwd: [SOCNET] Network Science on StackExchange
>
>>
>
>>     Hi John,
>
>>
>
>>     I don't know if you are familiar with the Stack Exchange family of
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>>     websites
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>>     and paid attention to this SOCNET email. Stack Exchange sites are very
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>>     effective and useful Q&A websites contributed by the community, a
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>>     sort of
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>>     more effective version of traditional forums and listservs.
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>>     The programming Stack Exchange website, Stack Overflow, is the most
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>>     popular.
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>>     If you program in R, Python, Java or any other language, Stack
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>>     Overflow is
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>>     an amazing resource where you can find answers to almost any
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>>     question you
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>>     might have. No programmer that I know does not use Stack Overflow on a
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>>     regular basis, and I myself use it almost daily for R questions and
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>>     answers.
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>>     A more recent and growing case is the Stack Exchange website on
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>>     statistics
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>>     (stats.stackeschange.com <http://stats.stackeschange.com>), which I
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>>     also have found very useful.
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>>
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>>     I'm writing this because a new Stack Exchange website has recently
>> been
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>>     proposed for Network Science (see forwarded email). This could become
>> a
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>>     great resource, similar to the wiki pages we were thinking about.
>
>>     However, this website is just in its proposal stage. To be actually
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>>     implemented by Stack Exchange it needs to reach a critical mass of
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>>     users and
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>>     sample questions. Please check it out and spread the word if you
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>>     like it. I
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>>     think this effort should be supported and sponsored as much as we can
>
>>     because this could become a very good tool for network researchers.
>
>>
>
>>     Raffaele
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>>
>
>>
>
>>     -------- Original Message --------
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>>     Subject:        [SOCNET] Network Science on StackExchange
>
>>     Date:   Fri, 17 Jan 2014 21:12:47 -0500
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>>     From:   ND <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
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>>     Reply-To:       ND <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
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>>     To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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>>
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>>     ***** To join INSNA, visit http://www.insna.org ***** Hi all.
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>>
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>>     I recently noticed that Guilherme Kenji Chihaya**has proposed a new
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>>     Network
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>>     Science StackExchange <http://stackexchange.com/> site. Briefly,
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>>     StackExchange is a gamified question and answer site. The Network
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>>     Science
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>>     proposal site must go through a number of phases to become a full
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>>     fledged Q
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>>     and A site. If you appreciate the value of StackExchange, and the
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>>     value such
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>>     a new site might have for network science, please drop by and play a
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>>     role in
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>>     getting it through the proposal process.
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>>
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>>     http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/61500/network-science
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>>
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>>     The current requirements to get through the "Definition" phase are
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>>     40 more
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>>     followers and 40 total sample questions with at least 10 "upvotes."
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>>     The idea is to decide as a group what we think this site should be
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>>     focused
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>>     on by voting which questions we think are good. So ask and cast some
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>>     votes.
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>>
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>>     For what it's worth, I have no role in this proposal other than a
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>>     follower
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>>     who has supplied one sample question. Thanks for reading, and for
>> great
>
>>     discussion in general over the years.
>
>>
>
>>     -Nate
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>>
>
>>     -----
>
>>     Nathan Doogan
>
>>     Doctoral Candidate--Social Work
>
>>     The Ohio State University
>
>>
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