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Good point, Nic! I especially like what you said about the Common Core.
Calla

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Nic Voge <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Interesting, but with all due respect, this is not a well-conceived
> article.
> For instance, the implication‹and it is implied and not warranted‹ of the
> sentence, ³[S]tudents whose families were in the top 20 precedent of
> income nationally actually took more remedial courses than students in the
> bottom 20 percent at the same colleges.² says nothing about the
> preparation of those two groups of students relative to one another, only
> their enrollment in remedial courses. Many of those courses are  probably
> not required, so they are not a good measure of relative preparation.
> Understood in the context of affluent students often using resources at
> greater rates than non-affluent students, this  data point can be
> interpreted  quite differently than intended. The implication is that
> affluent students were LESS well prepared because they took MORE courses.
> But there are lots of other  reasons besides preparation that students do
> and do not take remedial courses and many of them correlate with SES.
>
> I would use this suggestive data and opinion piece to explain that
> ³remediation² is not the same in all contexts (it was invented at Harvard,
> Princeton soon followed) and that, in fact, not all instances of students
> being under-prepared for a college curriculum suggest student
> ³remediation². Such a position would assume that all college curricula
> articulate with high school curricula. This is not the case,as I think we
> all knw. College is not grade 13 and the most selective schools are least
> like high school.
>
> By the way, why would we think that adherence to Common Core would address
> this issue? This is the unstated and unsupported premise of this piece,
> but I need an argument, preferably with evidence, that this is likely to
> be the case. I don¹t think that conclusion follows from the argument
> offered‹but I have not seen the original study.
>
> Best,
> Nic
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