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Hello! Rebecca, it is totally fine. Everything I do and share will always be free for the community. David Reedy and I had also started a conversation about a study on this, a while ago. Then life got in the way. I don't know if he has worked more on it. When this question was asked on the Listserv, I always saw responses describing *only *each center's ratio. However, there is a big difference between our individual realities and what we all *wish* we had, what would be really effective and efficient. I have not seen any studies addressing how to determine the ideal ratio. I would be interested in restarting the conversation and potentially come up with a questionnaire that would address this topic at a broader and deeper level. Best, Ira On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 5:27 PM Rebecca Tedesco <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > I initiated a discussion on this topic in 2017. I went back into the > LRNASST archive and found you some resources from that conversation. > > Below is a reply and some attachments Ira Fabri set at the time. (I hope > you don't mind me sharing this, Ira!) > > Also at the time, Stacey Blackwell was collecting benchmarking information > on this topic via Qualtrics survey. I received the report from her > directly, but no longer have access to it, because it would be in my former > institution's email. > > Stacey, if you're not too busy, would you be willing to share your results > from that survey to the list again? > > Rebecca Tedesco > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rtedesco.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=tkAACBgX69zH9b8QGasKbhgWu8w0Arh-QhL0xf_Y95k&m=EXdYKElY5b6M-Me_KarRgE4mB_8ORjVMlfvZpAa33Ek&s=-T6sSSERuWgwCWZjGbpkIJWNmpAbSCa0A2NfUxEi8Zg&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rtedesco.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=tkAACBgX69zH9b8QGasKbhgWu8w0Arh-QhL0xf_Y95k&m=p0-rEIkxEOb4AJitjtD6Onl8EdpXAKeJSAjQjBDolc8&s=0dDuc-dGxEfAiIRLlg-BB3oLwH6q0mrNHrCTR6ST5WA&e=> > Southwestern College (San Diego, CA) > CRLA Level 3 Master Tutor > Certified Learning Center Professional - Level 3 > She/Her > > P.S. Since this is a recurring question, if anyone out there wants to > conduct a study and write a journal article about it, it seems there would > be an audience.... I know I would read it! Just putting that out there! 😁 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: > > Re: Staff:Tutor Ratio > <https://lists.ufl.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=LRNASST-L;af308337.1712> > > From: > > Ira Fabri <[log in to unmask]> > > Reply-To: > > Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals <[log in to unmask]> > > Date: > > Tue, 5 Dec 2017 14:44:36 -0500 > > Content-Type: > > multipart/mixed > > Parts/Attachments: > > > [image: Parts/Attachments] > > text/plain > <https://lists.ufl.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A3=ind1712&L=LRNASST-L&E=Quoted-printable&P=1508444&B=--089e082c7db0181317055f9d1310&T=text%2Fplain;%20charset=UTF-8&header=1> > (117 lines) , text/html > <https://lists.ufl.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A3=ind1712&L=LRNASST-L&E=Quoted-printable&P=1515140&B=--089e082c7db0181317055f9d1310&T=text%2Fhtml;%20charset=UTF-8&XSS=3&header=1> > (26 lines) , Professional staff numbers.docx > <https://lists.ufl.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A3=ind1712&L=LRNASST-L&E=base64&P=1532313&B=--089e082c7db018131a055f9d1312&T=application%2Fvnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document;%20name=%22Professional%20staff%20numbers.docx%22&N=Professional%20staff%20numbers.docx&attachment=q&XSS=3> > (26 lines) , Tutoring numbers.xlsx > <https://lists.ufl.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A3=ind1712&L=LRNASST-L&E=base64&P=1552659&B=--089e082c7db018131a055f9d1312&T=application%2Fvnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.spreadsheetml.sheet;%20name=%22Tutoring%20numbers.xlsx%22&N=Tutoring%20numbers.xlsx&attachment=q&XSS=3> > (26 lines) > > Hi All. > > I saved some answers that were given to a similar question a while ago > (see attached Word document). I also ask some questions in September that > can help with this (see Excel file). The excel file is organized by > institution and not by question. That might make it a bit difficult to read > at first. I apologize but I have not had the time, yet, to reorganize it. > > I hope these two documents can help and I would be very interested in > other colleagues' insights. > > Best, > > Ira > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Joe Salvatore <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Hi Rebecca, > > We've actually considered this question lately as well while preparing our > strategic three-year budget. Currently, we have one program manager > supervising 218 study group facilitators and one program manager > supervising 60 tutors and 12 mentors. These programs do share one > administrative assistant as well. Obviously, this is far from ideal or a > best practice and we are hoping to provide the evidence needed to convince > our Dean's Office to grant our request for additional staff. > > Thanks! > > Joe > > > > > > > > Joe Salvatore > > Director at Science Learning Center (SLC) - University of Michigan > > > > A 1720 Chemistry, 930 N. University, Ann Arbor, MI 48109 > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__maps.google.com_-3Fq-3D930-2BN.-2BUniversity-2C-2BAnn-2BArbor-2C-2BMI-2B48109-26entry-3Dgmail-26source-3Dg&d=DwMFaQ&c=pZJPUDQ3SB9JplYbifm4nt2lEVG5pWx2KikqINpWlZM&r=yBiE514ByeBuT9iMcmLL81H9l3w_eWJJCNWWYb5qET4&m=T_aVsSqp4-5b9zH3j3jYAF_syFx2q96BwIH9Z6uGEyw&s=sX6bA04TT6HPTbx34MMwoqMW5yafL8d4_mujvOcnyk0&e=> > > P 734-763-9399 E [log in to unmask] W https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.lsa.umich.edu_slc&d=DwIFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=tkAACBgX69zH9b8QGasKbhgWu8w0Arh-QhL0xf_Y95k&m=EXdYKElY5b6M-Me_KarRgE4mB_8ORjVMlfvZpAa33Ek&s=alhAkIraodbLEE368tVvXCvXVCPHGD_2gj0-cQ4zaiU&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.lsa.umich.edu_slc&d=DwMFaQ&c=pZJPUDQ3SB9JplYbifm4nt2lEVG5pWx2KikqINpWlZM&r=yBiE514ByeBuT9iMcmLL81H9l3w_eWJJCNWWYb5qET4&m=km1kaaFLrdRawBZm0eOfgb8p_ects0unZgvGxh7R7Vg&s=P8jxxNlrc7uRByKG_caU38pQnb2Rj3vRyQfNe_C5Rvs&e=> > > > > > > > Joe Salvatore > > Director, Science Learning Center > > University of Michigan > > 1720 Chemistry > > 930 N. University > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__maps.google.com_-3Fq-3D930-2BN.-2BUniversityAnn-2BArbor-2C-2BMI-2B48109-26entry-3Dgmail-26source-3Dg&d=DwMFaQ&c=pZJPUDQ3SB9JplYbifm4nt2lEVG5pWx2KikqINpWlZM&r=yBiE514ByeBuT9iMcmLL81H9l3w_eWJJCNWWYb5qET4&m=T_aVsSqp4-5b9zH3j3jYAF_syFx2q96BwIH9Z6uGEyw&s=inSz3qNwxz3MPf6ySsE2Tiz3lQUTMbeJ7oxYOYJgmcM&e=> > > Ann Arbor, MI 48109 > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__maps.google.com_-3Fq-3D930-2BN.-2BUniversityAnn-2BArbor-2C-2BMI-2B48109-26entry-3Dgmail-26source-3Dg&d=DwMFaQ&c=pZJPUDQ3SB9JplYbifm4nt2lEVG5pWx2KikqINpWlZM&r=yBiE514ByeBuT9iMcmLL81H9l3w_eWJJCNWWYb5qET4&m=T_aVsSqp4-5b9zH3j3jYAF_syFx2q96BwIH9Z6uGEyw&s=inSz3qNwxz3MPf6ySsE2Tiz3lQUTMbeJ7oxYOYJgmcM&e=> > -1055 > > (734) 763-9399 > > > > On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Rebecca Tedesco <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > What have you found in your experience, or in the literature, to be an > ideal staff to tutor ratio for supervision and training? We are growing > our team and want to follow best practices. > > Applies for cross-posting. Thanks in advance! > > Rebecca Tedesco > > Peer Connections Tutor Coordinator > > San Jose State University > > [log in to unmask] > > 408-924-3346 > > She/Her/Hers > > > On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 5:55 AM Debbie Malewicki < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> About five years ago I did a survey through here, but the results were >> informal. We also added to responses through here research into departments >> that had won awards through the ATP and NCLA. About the only conclusion I >> was able to present my supervisors at the time with any level of >> reliability is that the top departments had a ratio of between 1 to 13 to 1 >> to 17. The rest of the results were all over the place and could be as high >> as 1 to 35 or even above. >> >> I don’t know if I even have access to that data directly anymore because >> I’ve moved on from the institution through which I gathered it, but I’m >> pretty sure that you will find the summation results that I posted here in >> the archives. >> >> That much being said, I don’t think you can consider this information to >> be at the same level as a researched/published article. >> >> Sincerely, >> Debbie Malewicki, President >> USA Tutors, LLC >> (203) 800-4100 >> [log in to unmask] >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.USATutors.io&d=DwIFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=tkAACBgX69zH9b8QGasKbhgWu8w0Arh-QhL0xf_Y95k&m=EXdYKElY5b6M-Me_KarRgE4mB_8ORjVMlfvZpAa33Ek&s=cnLCFC8oEby4WKkHhqb4bfo4yupvvBcZqhMaKIF-_y4&e= >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.USATutors.io&d=DwQF-g&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=tkAACBgX69zH9b8QGasKbhgWu8w0Arh-QhL0xf_Y95k&m=CXT_hwy_pI-K8ucOqwOgDXipeS5ZNqh-6D7D6uepvsc&s=oJIQy_4DhTcuAuV8I3UJwaeBAPoce6Xee3V-L8MZE8Q&e=> >> Facebook: @USATutors >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals < >> [log in to unmask]> on behalf of Sarah Feldberg < >> [log in to unmask]> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 4:53:12 PM >> *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> >> *Subject:* ratio of learning assistance staff to students? >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> In the past few years, I know a few iterations of this question have >> popped up on this listserve in the past, but I wanted to follow up again >> today: is anyone aware of research or data related to an ideal ratio of >> learning assistance staff/services? >> >> >> >> Thanks so much! >> >> >> >> Sarah >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *Sarah Feldberg* >> *Director of the Academic Support Center* >> WILSON COLLEGE >> 1015 Philadelphia Ave. >> Chambersburg, PA 17201 >> [log in to unmask] >> o. 717-262-2762 >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.wilson.edu&d=DwIFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=tkAACBgX69zH9b8QGasKbhgWu8w0Arh-QhL0xf_Y95k&m=EXdYKElY5b6M-Me_KarRgE4mB_8ORjVMlfvZpAa33Ek&s=jdCeTDvA03pW0QU62MAOIgPDgKvdL6BAtdozseSecTA&e= >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.wilson.edu_&d=DwMFAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=tkAACBgX69zH9b8QGasKbhgWu8w0Arh-QhL0xf_Y95k&m=gjL-s4vt1g62xvSa_gwWf23jtHpeeIwWJgd5xsMe-pg&s=OqZUCC5A2W5zr0NzVWdi_fk4V17vOcOJ0gHRkl9VWLE&e=> >> >> >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.wilson.edu_&d=DwMFAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=tkAACBgX69zH9b8QGasKbhgWu8w0Arh-QhL0xf_Y95k&m=gjL-s4vt1g62xvSa_gwWf23jtHpeeIwWJgd5xsMe-pg&s=OqZUCC5A2W5zr0NzVWdi_fk4V17vOcOJ0gHRkl9VWLE&e=> >> >> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments, is for >> the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and >> privileged information. 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