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Hello!

Rebecca, it is totally fine. Everything I do and share will always be free
for the community.

David Reedy and I had also started a conversation about a study on this, a
while ago. Then life got in the way. I don't know if he has worked more on
it.
When this question was asked on the Listserv, I always saw responses
describing *only *each center's  ratio. However, there is a big difference
between our individual realities and what we all *wish* we had, what would
be really effective and efficient. I have not seen any studies addressing
how to determine the ideal ratio. I would be interested in restarting the
conversation and potentially come up with a questionnaire that would
address this topic at a broader and deeper level.

Best,

Ira



On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 5:27 PM Rebecca Tedesco <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
>
> I initiated a discussion on this topic in 2017. I went back into the
> LRNASST archive and found you some resources from that conversation.
>
> Below is a reply and some attachments Ira Fabri set at the time. (I hope
> you don't mind me sharing this, Ira!)
>
> Also at the time, Stacey Blackwell was collecting benchmarking information
> on this topic via Qualtrics survey. I received the report from her
> directly, but no longer have access to it, because it would be in my former
> institution's email.
>
> Stacey, if you're not too busy, would you be willing to share your results
> from that survey to the list again?
>
> Rebecca Tedesco
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> Southwestern College (San Diego, CA)
> CRLA Level 3 Master Tutor
> Certified Learning Center Professional - Level 3
> She/Her
>
> P.S. Since this is a recurring question, if anyone out there wants to
> conduct a study and write a journal article about it, it seems there would
> be an audience.... I know I would read it! Just putting that out there! 😁
>
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> Subject:
>
> Re: Staff:Tutor Ratio
> <https://lists.ufl.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=LRNASST-L;af308337.1712>
>
> From:
>
> Ira Fabri <[log in to unmask]>
>
> Reply-To:
>
> Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals <[log in to unmask]>
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> Date:
>
> Tue, 5 Dec 2017 14:44:36 -0500
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> Hi All.
>
> I saved some answers that were given to a similar question a while ago
> (see attached Word document). I also ask some questions in September that
> can help with this (see Excel file). The excel file is organized by
> institution and not by question. That might make it a bit difficult to read
> at first. I apologize but I have not had the time, yet, to reorganize it.
>
> I hope these two documents can help and I would be very interested in
> other colleagues' insights.
>
> Best,
>
> Ira
>
> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Joe Salvatore <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Hi Rebecca,
>
> We've actually considered this question lately as well while preparing our
> strategic three-year budget.  Currently, we have one program manager
> supervising 218 study group facilitators and one program manager
> supervising 60 tutors and 12 mentors.  These programs do share one
> administrative assistant as well.   Obviously, this is far from ideal or a
> best practice and we are hoping to provide the evidence needed to convince
> our Dean's Office to grant our request for additional staff.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe
>
>
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> Joe Salvatore
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> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Rebecca Tedesco <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> What have you found in your experience, or in the literature, to be an
> ideal staff to tutor ratio for supervision and training?  We are growing
> our team and want to follow best practices.
>
> Applies for cross-posting.  Thanks in advance!
>
> Rebecca Tedesco
>
> Peer Connections Tutor Coordinator
>
> San Jose State University
>
> [log in to unmask]
>
> 408-924-3346
>
> She/Her/Hers
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 5:55 AM Debbie Malewicki <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sarah,
>>
>> About five years ago I did a survey through here, but the results were
>> informal. We also added to responses through here research into departments
>> that had won awards through the ATP and NCLA. About the only conclusion I
>> was able to present my supervisors at the time with any level of
>> reliability is that the top departments had a ratio of between 1 to 13 to 1
>> to 17. The rest of the results were all over the place and could be as high
>> as 1 to 35 or even above.
>>
>> I don’t know if I even have access to that data directly anymore because
>> I’ve moved on from the institution through which I gathered it, but I’m
>> pretty sure that you will find the summation results that I posted here in
>> the archives.
>>
>> That much being said, I don’t think you can consider this information to
>> be at the same level as a researched/published article.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Debbie Malewicki, President
>> USA Tutors, LLC
>> (203) 800-4100
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>> *From:* Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals <
>> [log in to unmask]> on behalf of Sarah Feldberg <
>> [log in to unmask]>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 4:53:12 PM
>> *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>> *Subject:* ratio of learning assistance staff to students?
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> In the past few years, I know a few iterations of this question have
>> popped up on this listserve in the past, but I wanted to follow up again
>> today: is anyone aware of research or data related to an ideal ratio of
>> learning assistance staff/services?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks so much!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Sarah Feldberg*
>> *Director of the Academic Support Center*
>> WILSON COLLEGE
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