Sorry about the problem in subscribing. I have checked the original address and indeed it is not correct. Tutor-L is run by Larry Sanger as a private service not as a listserve. He is interested in dialog. Lurk awhile before you jump to conclusions. This discussion is provocative. The correct address and directions follow: ********************************************************************* Send email to: [log in to unmask] No subject header In body of message, write: Subscribe ******************************************************************** Happy internetting and connecting. [log in to unmask] "The illiterate person is not one who cannot read, Frank L Christ but the person who has not learned to learn" Emeritus, CSU Long Beach [Freely adapted from Gurjuoy/HRRO] Visiting Scholar, U of AZ