Sheila - We are still using the Nelson-Denny, Forms G and H as one of the methods of evaluation. I do agree with you, however, because I find that some instructors weigh heavily on what students do on these tests. It concerns me that students, when not timed, usually finish within the hour and definately do better than using the timing. The revised Stanford Reading Test, Forms J and K, have peaked our interests. Do you know anything about them? Or has onyone out in Cyberspace used both the Stanford and the Nelson-Denny to make a comparison?