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Are these authors listed flagship or second tier? I am doctoral
student at Columbia TC as well as an adjunct college teacher as was
told that it was flagship as is UCLA and Berkeley. Please advise and
help rid me of my ignorance. Prof L



> Paul Ellis wrote:
> <Martha, could you name the "experts" and some of the "second tier
> universities . . . rapidly divesting themselves of their remedial
> programs"? I would like to hear directly from those universities, if they
> have representatives on LRNASST.>
>
> The author's include:
> Arthur Levine, President Teachers College, Columbia University
> Burton R. Clark, Professor of Higher Ed. Emeritus, UCLA
> Francis Oakly, Processor of the History of Ideas at Williams College
> Walter E. Mossley, President of Morehouse College. Patrick
> M. Callaban President of the higher Education Policy Institute
> Martin Trow, Professor of Higher Education at  U.C. Berkeley
> and other like the president of Cornell U., scholars from Brandeis, U.
> Buffalo, Wake Forest,  etc.
>
> Flagship institutions are those that are the most prestigious and highly
> selective public and private research institutions - such as Duke &
> Berkeley, & Michigan, and U. Illinois and/or those considered major
> research  universities .  Second- tier universities are all those that are
> NOT  considered "flagship" nor "open-admission."  For example, all of South
> Carolina's four year public institutions have done away with developmental
> courses (or else hidden them deeply somewhere that no one else can find ).
> State universities like some of the four year colleges in  CUNY and SUNY
> and in Ohio and Mass,. etc., have been cutting back remedial programs  and
> the Cal State U.system has  extended the deadline for  doing away with
> remedial programs from the year 2000 to 2005, at my  last reading.
>
> This movement is NOT NEW.  Back in 1980, experts and college presidents
> were being urged to "divest themselves of remedial courses." - The
> Chronicle of Higher Ed. had many articles on this topic and it was
> frequently on the agenda of the national conferences of state legislators.
> .
>
> If this movement continue, it   leave developmental/remedial courses in
> extension colleges, community colleges, open-admission four year
> institutions, and those private colleges  who aren't highly selective.
> Proprietary colleges like technical  colleges, beauty schools, culinary
> institutes, etc. may or may not have developmental courses. However, . The
> University of Phoenix , the country's largest private proprietary college,
> as far as I can find out does not offer developmental courses and accepts
> only working adults .
>
>  I think that your college still considers itself an "open-admission"
> institution, doesn't it?
>
> The point that the authors are making is that with  the numbers of students
> already in the pipe-line -i.e., enrolled in elementary, middle and
> secondary schools  who are and will be seeking entrance to colleges with  a
> steady-state budget, there wont be room for the weakest applicants. Thus
> all of the tiers will become more selective and the number of
> open-admission colleges will decrease and even the community colleges may
> raise their standards. .  Arizona , one state with a growing population and
> the money to expand colleges is now considering turning community colleges
> into four year colleges and that is raising a ruckus.
>
> There are, of course, differences in population growth -  some expect much
> larger gains that 15% ; others expect  smaller increases.
>
Sue Lorraine Lavorata
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