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Thanks Martha Maxwell for your informative response: >Second- tier universities are all those that are >NOT considered "flagship" nor "open-admission." For example, all of South >Carolina's four year public institutions have done away with developmental >courses (or else hidden them deeply somewhere that no one else can find ). >State universities like some of the four year colleges in CUNY and SUNY >and in Ohio and Mass,. etc., have been cutting back remedial programs and >the Cal State U.system has extended the deadline for doing away with >remedial programs from the year 2000 to 2005, at my last reading. Now I would like to hear from folks from South Carolina, CUNY, SUNY, Ohio, and Mass.--what kind of changes have occurred and what has the impact been? Paul Ellis, Director [log in to unmask] Learning Assistance Program - BP 230 TEL 606.572.5611 Northern Kentucky University FAX 606.572.5566 Highland Heights, KY 41099