Thanks Peggy. I have taught developmental education courses since 1982. I have worked in the tutorial arena since 1979. They both go together, and they both allow for the development of skills that will take a student through college. I also teach college level courses in many different disciplines as I can whenever I can find an enlightened institution that does not cubby hole its courses and instructors. But I am a hard-nosed s.o.b. in all of my classes. All assignments must be completed to pass my classes. Failure to complete any one of them leads to failure for the class. However, I am always availalble to my students. I have all "eight" hours of my day in the college available to my students, and they have my home phone number to call me in the evenings. I've had many failures. I believe some of them are probably mine -- a failure to commuicate or some personality conflicts that were not resolved. But the vast majority of my students have passed. And those that pass my developmental classes pass the subsequent courses as well. I can't take credit for that either. Those students are motivated. But it is our responsibility to try to motivate the unmotivated. Singing, dancing, gyrating, coddling, coercing whatever it takes to get through to the individual student. Would that I could reach them all -- it doesn't work that way. Unless there is accountability, the buck will continue to be passed. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Jim Valkenburg [log in to unmask] Delta College University Center, MI 48710-0002 (517) 686-9034 FAX (517) 686-8736