Craig: I share some of your concerns about SI, so you are not alone in questioning this well-promoted bastion of learning assistance. In addition to questions about statistically significant differences, I still have qualms about the "motivational controls." And for my campus, SI has yet to be cost effective: since I can establish statistical significance with the other tutoring that we do, and since SI costs more for us to implement, I prefer other tutoring models to SI. Having said this, however, I must confess that we are again doing SI here at my open-admissions four-year school, primarily because SI has such good press (and keep in mind that I'm a mere 50 miles north of its home at UMKC). It is not a bad program by any means, but I am uncomfortable with the lack of open discussion about the kinds of hard questions you put forth. I have been at conferences where people seem to feel that we must be quiet, as though we belong to some secret society that has yet to develop clear hand signals for membership, and not speak ill of SI in front of beleivers or risk certain -- I don't know what we risk, it's just the feeling that I'm trying to convey. So please, listers, we're all safe here surely -- and if not here, then where?? -- so open up and let Craig and I and the other secret members hear some discussion. _______________________________________________________________________ Jan Norton, Director Center for Academic Support Phone: (816) 271-4536 Missouri Western State College Email: [log in to unmask] 4525 Downs Drive Fax: (816) 271-4574 St. Joseph, MO 64507