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Gary Probst wrote:

I have the same type of students as Walt writes about.  However, when I
ask them why they are coming to college, some say, "My mother wants me
to."


Walt Barlow wrote:
>
> In reply to Mary Jenness's and Maggie's assertion that no student ever came
> to college to flunk out:
>
> It must be that I work in an atmosphere much different than you and others
> who have yet to meet a student who did not care one way or the other if
> they succeeded in college or not.
>
> Since I have been to a number of recruiting sessions conducted by our
> Office of Minority Affairs and since the students who respond to these
> recruiting efforts become my clientele, I can tell you that indeed some
> students come to college for all the wrong reasons.
>
> When discussing the poor grades and generally dismal performance of nearly
> half of these students I learn that many of them had little or no
> orientation to college study, took few if any college prep courses
> (although offered in their respective high schools), do not attend class
> regularly (by report of their instructors and by their own admission), do
> not do required reading, do not take sufficient notes, disrupt class, sleep
> in class, do not take advantage of professors who not only offer
> consultations outside of class but plead for students to converse with
> them, do not attend or participate in study groups paid for and organized
> by our office (only students on campus to receive free tutoring), do not
> meet with any of the free individual tutors, etc. etc. etc.
>
> When after learning all of the above depressing info I ask, "Why did you
> come to college?" They typically answer, "For the scholarship." To the tune
> of $3,000/yr. on average per student, the majority of whom did not meet
> standard admissions criteria, and the majority of whom will be continued on
> scholarship for at least 5 semesters (if not the full 5 years) despite
> their failure to meet the stated 2.5 GPA minimum.
>
> Now do you better understand my disillusionment with programs similar to
> the one in which I am mired, which purport to help students who have
> historically been denied access to higher education? But, please do not
> misinterpret my statements as racist or elitist; I simply want each and
> every student, regardless of race, gender, or socioeconomic status to take
> responsibility for her/his success and failure and to cease and desist with
> "helping" programs that only perpetuate the current malaise where
> individuals are stripped of personal responsibility to make the mark or not.
> ****************************************
> Walt Barlow
> Learning Services Center
> University of Kentucky
> 660 S. Limestone
> Lexington, KY 40506-0417
> Phone: (606)323-6347
> FAX: (606)257-2425