Jackie, Hi. I work at Nova Southeastern University, an independent college in Fort Lauderdale. I recently did a study on what you wrote about. The results were similar for developmental students, but reverse for the others. Specifically, I compared students who took our develeopmental class and students who didn't take the developmental class on their performances in our next level class, Intermediate Algebra. The developmental students passed at a rate of 60% and those who started with the Intermediate Algebra passed it at a rate of 48%. I looked at first attempts at the class, not repeaters in it. In order to have moved up from the developmental class, students needed a C or better. As for the pass rate in the developmental class, it is around 55%. We do not have self-paced programs. We have about 200 students take the class each year on our main campus and that is the population I have studied during my doctoral program. I may be looking into alternative approaches to teaching our developmental class, to help students perform better. I hope this information helps. I don't have any stats for the English/writing courses. Neil Neil Starr Math Specialist Academic Support Center Nova Southeastern University [log in to unmask] wrote: > I am more interested in how students do in the next math or English > course. For example, when students complete our remedial math they only > have a 50% pass rate in Finite compared to other students who didn't need > the remedial and had a 80% pass rate. We now must face other questions > about our course and the required course. > > We actually have a very high pass rate in our remedial class because it > is self paced and the students can put in extra hours outside of class to > finish the course. > > Jackie Simom > Rider University